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  I need help! Talk coming up and I need ideas fast!

  by BU2B in

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  omg i am so distressed.

  i have a talk coming up on tuesday, it is the number 3 "abiram.

  why opposing god appointed authority is tantamount to opposing god himself"!.

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  cha ching

  Yikes! Sounds like Nazi time again!

  I like Blondies outline....

  Your finishing line c/b:

  "To oppose or not to oppose, that is the question.... "

  The answer? "Not unless you are a brother or sister of the "authority"

  cha ching!
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  Is it all about the money?

  by Laika in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  often on this forum there are posts about how the gb are obsessed with money and some people here often suggest this impacts every decision the gb makes i.e.

  on my holiday thread it was suggested jws aren't allowed to celebrate holidays as it means spending money on presents that they want for themselves.. i however, do not think this is at all true.

  the society rarely talks about money and as a percentage of income i think the vast majority of jws contribute a very small amount simply because the society rarely talk about it.. obviously money is important to the society in the sense that they couldn't run a major organisation without it, so they have to ask for it at times and factor it in to some of their decision making, but actually the gb live quite frugally and seem to worry much more about clinging to their authority and power than getting rich.. my controversial suggestion of the day is that saying the gb are obsessed with money must make us look silly to lurkers.. what does the jwn intellegentsia think then?.

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  cha ching

  Money, money, money, MOOONey.... so the song goes...

  Only $500__ per month? I am in the US, so let's say $200 per month x 50,000 congregations = $10,000,000 (ten million) a month!

  That is 120 million a year!

  Let alone, at each "Circuit Assembly" they would say "Oh, we need $6,000 more to cover our costs for this weekend (and the hall is paid off) and oh, by the way (at the end of the ass-embly) they would casually tell us "Oh, and the brothers voted, and the $5,000 left over from our expenses will be sent to the Society. Aren't we all happy?" ( wish I had $10,000 to write a check to them at the beginning of the Ass-embly just to see if they would still ask for $$$)

  So, let's just say $5,000 x 50 weeks (out of a year) = $250,000 a year for one circuit in the US. If there are 100 circuits, you now have $25,000,000 a year!

  I have been around a long while, and I remember when there were FEW requests for donations in the KM.

  NOW, over the past few years I read in the "Kingdom" Ministry, there are parts on the meetings almost EVERY OTHER MONTH, that discuss How to make your will out so that the Society can inherit everything....

  They offer their services (no need to hire a lawyer, "we'll tell you how to give us all your money") for free!!

  Also, it is a very weird thing to see/hear them list all the different things you can "donate" when you die!

  Quite audacious!

  I was truly embarrasssed!!!!!!!!!!

  cha ching, no more of MY bling!
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  Critical Differences: JW's Today Vs The Past

  by metatron in

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  jehovah's witnesses have always been a fringe, anti-intellectual movement, almost by definition.

  there is nothing new about faddish health concerns, attitudes that ignore history and science or even beliefs that defy common sense ( false prophecy for what, 130+ years?).

  however, there are two differences with jw's of the past that will prove critical for the survival of the organization today.. 1) poor financial conditions - in the past, it was possible to hold all sorts of nonsensical beliefs and still be a functional member of the human race, generally.

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  cha ching

  I think one of the most critical differences btwn JW's of "today" and "the past" is that today, JW's cannot explain their own beliefs... they do not know their own history...

  Want a JW to explain 607? Why 1914 is soooo important? and if 1914 is wrong, what happens to 1919? Why is the date 1919 essential? Can they connect the dots?

  Not if you gave them the dots........ and the pencil.......

  They can say "JW.org... JW.org.... Jw.org..."
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  Newcomers to TTATT: Beware of "New Study Mode"!

  by Londo111 in

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  weve all heard it.

  a person starts studying with jehovahs witnesses and love what they are learning so much that they cant stop talking about it.

  bubbling with enthusiasm, they spill everything they are learning with their friends and family...or anybody who will listen.

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  cha ching

  Graci, Sam!

  Fortunately for me, my husband and I always "debated/ discussed" things.

  Both of us like to have "the truth"! (Take that WT!!)
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  The pope helped me punk a few dub brains

  by scary21 in

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  since the pope stepped down and is in the news, thought i would pull a little joke.

  called my ex who is a born in, not baptized, but still has dub brain.

  me " did you hear about the pope stepping down today ?.

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  cha ching

  Too late for me to try, or I would! Nobody talks to me anymore... no witnesses.. !

  I will try to use it as an illustration if I am able to!

  To me? the GB hold the "Get Out of Jail Free Card" in their hand, and they play it all the time!

  Thx Scary!
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  Newcomers to TTATT: Beware of "New Study Mode"!

  by Londo111 in

  1. jw
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  weve all heard it.

  a person starts studying with jehovahs witnesses and love what they are learning so much that they cant stop talking about it.

  bubbling with enthusiasm, they spill everything they are learning with their friends and family...or anybody who will listen.

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  cha ching

  OK, I give.... UBM = _____????
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  Newcomers to TTATT: Beware of "New Study Mode"!

  by Londo111 in

  1. jw
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  weve all heard it.

  a person starts studying with jehovahs witnesses and love what they are learning so much that they cant stop talking about it.

  bubbling with enthusiasm, they spill everything they are learning with their friends and family...or anybody who will listen.

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  cha ching

  that one little wire.... ba boooom!

  I mean, "cha ching!"
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  Discussion with some elders

  by GoUnion in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello everyone just wanted to relate a situation that occurred a few days ago.

  so i have quit going to meetings for a few months now based on some issues i have with the explanations of current doctrines.

  my wife is none too happy with this but over the last few months we have had some date nights and have tentitively agreed to disagree.

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  cha ching

  There is soon to be (if as reported) a one day "elder's school" soon.

  I am sure it will be very legalistic, very "get rid of the people who think for themselves" type of a deal.

  There has already been a "talk" in the hall near us about "treating those who do not attend or go out in service as "mentally ill" and "liars, like their father the Devil"

  It will effect you.... it will........ be careful...

  Best thing you can do? Take your wife on dates, do fun things, have fun memories with her! Yah!

  She won't want to miss any of that! :-)
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  Discussion with some elders

  by GoUnion in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello everyone just wanted to relate a situation that occurred a few days ago.

  so i have quit going to meetings for a few months now based on some issues i have with the explanations of current doctrines.

  my wife is none too happy with this but over the last few months we have had some date nights and have tentitively agreed to disagree.

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  cha ching

  Go Union, Go Union! ... just go a little quieter :-)

  I have just seen this thread.. and was about to write what Oubilette captured so 'right on the money.'

  I am a wife, my husband was an elder. We are both out, humans should not interfere in other humans marriages.

  There is a couple in our hall (ex-hall for 2 years now) where the husband awakened to TTAT (maybe before us) but he

  never said anything to any one....... Then he started talking....... his wife "turned him in.... "

  It brings to mind the word "Nazi." "One case involved a teenager named Walter Hess

  who turned in his father for calling Hitler a crazed maniac.

  His father was then hauled off to Dachau under Schutzhaft (protective custody).

  For setting such an example, Hess was promoted to a higher rank within the HJ."

  Nazi's could be very cold hearted, follow orders, "yes sir!" "Heil Hitler!"

  I have seen the same earnestnest to please the GB as of late.

  First: We want to say we love you and miss you

  Second: They talk with you listen to you, find out how loyal you are to "The Borg"

  Third: If you do not agree, use the right terminology, they call you a few days later to say (yep, they met without you) that you are soon to be announced as "No longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses".......
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  Letter to Governing Body .Recorded conversations with Elders

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this on youtube...very good example of twisted reasoning by elders.. .

  recorded conversations with elders by a former pioneer....a series.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw8amuphqis.

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  cha ching

  It is so sad to see such nice people (like the 'brother' doing the video) be so disappointed by WT...

  Yet, it is also encouraging to see him wake up, think, put things together, and think like many of us.

  I love when the WT is 'hoisted by their own petard.'

  That means that TTAT is becoming more and more evident.